New Spaces

This week we discuss listener’s comments on Second Life tier, Linden Lab’s new product dio, the acquistion of Blocksworld and more!

This week’s topics include:


Bernhard Drax (Draxtor Despres) is a musician, new media producer, and machinima journalist.

Karl Stiefvater (Qarl Fizz, formerly Qarl Linden) is visual effects artist, software developer, and interactive designer extraordinaire.

Thank you to our sponsors, Botgirl’s Identity Circus and Pretty Feet!

About Kim/Gianna

Kimberly Winnington (SL: Gianna Borgnine) is the Emmy nominated owner and CEO of Sand Castle Studios, LLC, a company dedicated to helping organizations maximize the full potential of virtual worlds and social media by creating interactive, social, and 3D experiences. For the last 5 years, Kimberly has helped SCS clients stay ahead of the curve and is a respected resource for information on current and developing trends, social media, and immersive experiences.
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13 Responses to New Spaces

  1. Metacam Oh says:

    Still listening to the podcast, but I have to say, Draxtor seems pretty delusional about Second Life.

  2. Evangelical says:

    1. SL is not dying. This mantra has been repeated for 8 years now. Repeating it over and over does not make it true. How sad that success in the SL environment is measured by how much money is made. SL is evolving and has been since day 1.

    2. There is lag. There is traffic out in the real world. Do we moan and bitch about this endlessly? Well yes, those that choose to focus on negatives all the time do.

    3. Drax is right, Amazon needs to take over Marketplace.

    4. Materials has been coming for a while now, I’ll be thrilled to see it soon. (yay Geenz!)

    5. A major difference between SL and ‘instant gratification’ games is that SL never promised to ‘entertain’ you. You need to be able to think. Big ask for some.

    6. I will be sad to see Kathy go, nice lady. RL moves you along sometimes though.

  3. Lexi Zelin says:

    I think that LL could do alot more to better accommodate new users and make SL something that is intriguing and not so intimidating. I’ve always felt that much more could be done with the welcome area to achieve these things and would probably keep alot more new users here instead of them saying Fthis there’s no point to this. Because, SL has no point, it’s not supposed to though because it’s YOUR SL, it is what you make it. But, if you don’t know how to open a freaking box, or attach your clothing or hair, or really do anything that might be fun and interesting to you then your more likely to go back to IMVU or Skyrim where you came from.

    Imvu, I think they have the right ideas.. In imvu you are immediately presented with options of things you can do, and because of this your more inclined to check them out! Your not just thrown in a dome somewhere and left to wonder around till you figure out what the hell is going on.

    Also, IMVU does require it’s creators to have a vip membership before being able to access the creator tools. I think that could be a very good thing for LL to do! One reason being, there are alot of “creators” out there are not serious about it, they buy one of my full perm items and turn around and try to sell it as full perm or sell it for a much lower price then is allowed according to our terms of service agreement. I think if people were required to have a premium account you would see more serious sellers and not so many people who are just trying to get a quick buck no matter what the ramifications of it is. On the other hand, I would imagine it would piss alot of creators off, especially since many of us have our own full sims and are already spending $300+ a month just for that alone. So, if that ever did happen I’d imagine many creators would wither be super pissy about it or just right out leave the creator side of things completely and that could be super sad..

  4. Medhue says:

    Well…… let me talk about the marketplace first. IMHO, the only problem with the marketplace is that the algorythm is set in a way that promo some of the cheapest items. Yeah, people find cheap and free stuff, but does any of that enhance their SL experience? If the algorythm worked in a way that it displayed products with the best price to sale ratio, then LL would maximize their profits and the customers would get results that others have already deemed valuable, hence making their SL lives more valuable. Price is just a measure of value. If your algorythmic results only display the cheapest product, you are displaying the least valuable products to your perspective customers. This devalues the whole SL experience.

    I’ve lived off my SL income for over 6 years now, and I don’t agree with other than think MP is killing SL. But… I do think the MP is killing merchants, which will inturn kill SL. Think of it this way, If LL displays all the cheapest stuff, the people, that spend hours and hours making complex products that they have to charge decent money for, are going to sell less items. These people own sim. People that sell freebies don’t own sims. LL displaying freebies is taking away sales from sim owners, and devaluing the whole SL experience.

    Don’t get me wrong here. I have nothing against freebies, but I do have a problems with LL displaying freebies at the top of every category and search results.

    Lag!!!!!! Sorry, I never see lag. I own a sim and most of the stuff there is made by me or some1 that I trust to make efficient products. Of course nailing down lag can be tricky, but I’d say that much of the problem has to do with inexperienced creators and texture abuse. Mesh can make things much less laggy for both avatars and sims, but people need to focus more on efficiency and make proper UV maps that are mapped out efficiently. My whole mesh werewolf avatar uses 1 texture, and his clothing is all on another map. 2 textures for the whole avatar. All the utensils I made use the same texture. In SL, with normal prims, 1 prims can use 6 textures. Imagine an item with 20 prims. This is why I say that most of the lag is texture lag.

    As far as the mesh deformer not working perfectly on every avatar, tell that person to make some animations and see if those animations fit every avatar perfectly. Take my word for it, they only really fit the exact avatar it was designed for, or the animator adjusted the same animation to fit different size avatars.

  5. Medhue says:

    Oh, and I have to say “WTF” about the deformer. Put the dang thing out to the public and let them decide, instead of listening to some negative nancys. I mean I get it, a modeler spends hours making something and a deformer that fits it to any avatar messes it up a little. Either deal with it, or don’t use. That choice at it’s best. LL needs to get their head out of their asses and stop listening to people who will complain no matter what they do.

  6. Isa says:

    You don’t get dropped into the middle of nowhere. I’m tired of people saying that.

    Go make a new account. When you log into world, you will land in a place with portals. At the top of the portal doors lists almost every category of activity a person may want to do in sl. You walk through the portal and it automatically tps you there, so you don’t even have to know how to tp.

    I made two new accounts solely for experimentation as I wanted to see what the new user experience is like. One account was a steampunk boat. Another a vampire. I walked through the rp portal for both of them. With the boat, I landed into Caledon help center. With the vamp, I landed in a lovecraft town. I think based on the avatar you choose, the portal picks a place that might appeal to the type of av you picked.

    With my first alt account, it showed me a very thorough tutorial on how to do all the basic functions in sl. Like move, fly etc. With diagrams and pictures. It does suck to not be able to get back to the new place and help people, but the new user experience isn’t as bad as it used to be.

  7. Loki says:

    All this about the Amazon hoverboard offer. I do not see it as a door leading to Marketplace on amazon. Its a DC offer like what we see with many other Video Game offers and nothing more. Exclusive Downloadable Content is offered with most Video Game releases these days.

  8. Tracy Redangel says:

    My husband (who plays SL as well) and I were driving down the street a few days ago and we saw this run-down appartment building and it was named…Linden Appartments. It was funny because of the “lovely” tenement projects you get to live in when you have a premium SL account. Maybe they’re not THAT bad, but they could make them more enticing by adding at least a few sticks of nicely-designed low-prim furniture. Maybe they could contract a furniture & home designer to re-design the basic linden home with a simple kitchen, living room, and bedroom. That’s adding benefit to being a premium member.
    I think some of the reasons parts of Second Life are thriving is because that is where the most new content is being created. The fashion industry in Second Life is still booming because that’s where all the new content is. Whenever there is a new launch of products by popular designers, those sims are packed with avatars shopping in-world. Just last weekend when Gospel Voom (Gos shoes) released his new line of Gos Boutique shoes, there were lots of happy ladies in the store buying shoes left and right. I’m not so convinced that it’s only women who are interested in new mesh content just so they can have fabulous hair and clothes. I think people want new mesh homes, cars, planes, etc. More furniture and home designers are starting to create in mesh, but not very many. You can buy a grand 20-room mansion on Marketplace, but it’s probably going to be a 2-3 year old prim-hogging build. Mesh is still relatively new to SL, and it presents a challenge for some creators because they have to learn to use 3-D software. Blender is free to use, but it’s still a steep learning curve. I’m hoping that as more new quality mesh content is available people will continue expanding their shopping beyond just clothes, hair and shoes.

  9. Sean Brady says:

    Thanks for the mentions. I do really feel like it is the regions with no method to monetize that close. If you have a method to make money, either selling something or selling land, it can still make sense to own regions.

    As for Dio, i think it is a lot of fun. I am making my own Dio place for my estate to introduce people to all of the different areas. Its a lot of fun working through the options, and trying to build in interactivity. I will be embedding a couple places to find a coupon that new residents can use to get free rent. I can see where this sort of site is all about what content gets created. There is some good content. Hopefully it will continue.

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  12. Inara Pey says:

    Three things:

    Karl. dio. Disgruntled Frogs.

    ‘Nuff said ;-).

  13. Crap Mariner says:

    Shark jumped. Well done.

    PS: If your guest bails, take the week off. Any benefit from Qarl’s insight is greatly outweighed by Drax’s ignorant blither.

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